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Post by Apache on Sept 21, 2009 2:53:11 GMT 8
It seems that zombie or calling your hits is the root of conflict in the sport of Airsoft.
Now the we have organize NAF.
What penalty should we impose for habitual violators (zombie) either in friendly games or tournament?
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Post by markbilyar on Sept 21, 2009 9:38:42 GMT 8
On normal sunday games zombies will always be present since it is an honest hit system and i think it depends on the team where he is playing on what penalties they want to give to their teammate and not the federation.. On tournaments marhsalls should be the one controlling the game, poor marshalling will definitely result to chaos.. If the tournament is under the federation, i think it is better that the federation will host a seminar on proper marshalling and penalties to be given to violators for the team hosting the tournament.. peace
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Post by rhojgz (TOTOWASWAS) on Sept 21, 2009 9:45:41 GMT 8
Sir, suggestion lng: for players who are ZOMBIES & commit OVER-KILL during tournaments and once proved by the umpire or host, automatic DQ ang player/s nga ZOMBIE or the ones who committed OVER-KILLING for the whole tournament.
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Post by Apache on Sept 21, 2009 18:01:56 GMT 8
Sir, suggestion lng: for players who are ZOMBIES & commit OVER-KILL during tournaments and once proved by the umpire or host, automatic DQ ang player/s nga ZOMBIE or the ones who committed OVER-KILLING for the whole tournament. Many thanks for the comment but lets stick to the issue only w/c is zombism or zombie. Supposing on Sunday games, Player01 was complained by visiting team that he's a zombie. then another Sunday, another team reported Player01 is not calling his hits. If we call the attention of his Team Leader, he will just deny or make excuses that he was not hit. Now, how do we penalize this kind of player or zombie? |
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Post by ghostyx15 on Sept 21, 2009 18:59:12 GMT 8
i suggest that we just let him be a zombie.. ma agwanta lng na sya ya sng sakit . . . nd gd na ya madula ang zombies sa sunday games maskin anu pa da na law ang impose na2n. hehe.. kng may airsoft my zombie gd na ya .. thats reality .. . . . just my 2 cents sir..  |
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Post by questionman2005 on Sept 22, 2009 11:43:55 GMT 8
Well.. before we can penalize... first things first.
How can we CONVICT one for being a Zombie? Would words against him from other players be enough? What would be considered as evidences to mark one a guilty for being a zombie. It wouldn’t be fair if we would start penalizing players as zombies if we cannot establish a proper method of ACCURATELY PROVING that one is a zombie.
Mu lang na.
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Post by NAF Admin on Sept 22, 2009 18:38:11 GMT 8
Sir, suggestion lng: for players who are ZOMBIES & commit OVER-KILL during tournaments and once proved by the umpire or host, automatic DQ ang player/s nga ZOMBIE or the ones who committed OVER-KILLING for the whole tournament. Many thanks for the comment but lets stick to the issue only w/c is zombism or zombie. Supposing on Sunday games, Player01 was complained by visiting team that he's a zombie. then another Sunday, another team reported Player01 is not calling his hits. If we call the attention of his Team Leader, he will just deny or make excuses that he was not hit. Now, how do we penalize this kind of player or zombie? 1). Note the offending player's NAF Team ID and the affected player's team leader can post that NAF Team ID number in a watch list thread in the Federation Bunker. 2). All NAF team leaders can then vote on and decide how many times a player has been listed on the watch list before a NAF penalty is issued to that specific player. |
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Post by markbilyar on Sept 22, 2009 21:22:43 GMT 8
Sir questionman2005 is correct.. Words will definitely not be enough to convict a player.. Unless you have hard evidence that one is definitely a zombie will then you be able to penalize him/her.. Dapat may camera na mga gamesite para may replay.. joke
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Post by Apache on Sept 23, 2009 2:16:21 GMT 8
Many thanks for the comment but lets stick to the issue only w/c is zombism or zombie. Supposing on Sunday games, Player01 was complained by visiting team that he's a zombie. then another Sunday, another team reported Player01 is not calling his hits. If we call the attention of his Team Leader, he will just deny or make excuses that he was not hit. Now, how do we penalize this kind of player or zombie? 1). Note the offending player's NAF Team ID and the affected player's team leader can post that NAF Team ID number in a watch list thread in the Federation Bunker. 2). All NAF team leaders can then vote on and decide how many times a player has been listed on the watch list before a NAF penalty is issued to that specific player. many thanks to your suggestion sir! |
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Post by NAF Admin on Sept 23, 2009 23:22:06 GMT 8
1). Note the offending player's NAF Team ID and the affected player's team leader can post that NAF Team ID number in a watch list thread in the Federation Bunker. 2). All NAF team leaders can then vote on and decide how many times a player has been listed on the watch list before a NAF penalty is issued to that specific player. many thanks to your suggestion sir! You're welcome sir. Hope others will also suggest ways to make players accountable for their actions.  |
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Post by pax on Oct 2, 2009 20:55:37 GMT 8
It seems that zombie or calling your hits is the root of conflict in the sport of Airsoft. Now the we have organize NAF. What penalty should we impose for habitual violators (zombie) either in friendly games or tournament? Yes sir, oftentimes zombie is the cause of conflict among and between airsofters and even faction within the team may result if left unchecked by officers or marshalls of the concerned team. In fact cessation from the team would also be a consequence if the same is taken for granted. I really find it difficult on what penalty is to be imposed upon this zombie. Anyway, as an airsofter and for the love of the game, i feel it is my moral obligation to err my opinion regarding this thread. Personally, the most effective way to minimize this problem lies on the shoulder of each and every team leaders with the cooperation of course the officers, if any, and more importantly to each and every member-airsofters. Team can conduct fellowship or forum alloting time to tackle this problem. Admonish the violator of his inappropriate actions and remind him the virtue to be observed in playing airsoft which is fairness and honesty. Efforts to the effect that violator would feel and know that he committed infractions and for that he may, at any rate, conscious that he had done wrong. However this should be done in a nice way taking into consideration his sensitivity. In this case, violator may realized and reform himself. Furthermore, the role of each and every team member during game is very important vis a vis the erring or zombie. I believe that any member who actually witness any members' infraction had the responsibility to call his attention and had him conscious of his wrongful act. But then again this should be done in a nice way. Infractions left unreprimanded would worsen the plight of the zombie. On the other hand, teams should not aggravate the situation of the zombie like initiating rumors or gossip regarding the said person or making him a "pulotan". This will not help the situation rather it will create bad atmosphere within the team. Zombie needs help. It would be a great help if each team can make a mechanism loop wherein violators may be dealt with proprietness and be rehabilitated towards a responsible airsofter. In this we will be helping make our airsoft team more mature and more responsible. |
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Post by Apache on Oct 2, 2009 21:35:44 GMT 8
well said sir pax.
fully agree!!!
each and everyone of us has full responsibility.
not only his team leader but teammates as well when witnessing an err teammate.
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Post by pax on Oct 3, 2009 21:32:36 GMT 8
well said sir pax. fully agree!!! each and everyone of us has full responsibility. not only his team leader but teammates as well when witnessing an err teammate. Thnx sir apache... |
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